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A former US spy turned leading privacy activist has slammed the UK's ID card plans, saying they will weaken national security and lead to abuses of government power.
Bill Scannell is a former agent at the National Security Agency (NSA) and now a huge privacy advocate, currently heading up a campaign against the introduction of a national driving licence across the US.
The US Real ID legislation was railroaded through Congress on the back of a budget bill, with virtually no debate or consultation, and all states must now have a standard driving licence by 2008. But already costs have spiralled way above the original $100m estimated by the government.
In an interview with silicon.com in London last week, just after the House of Lords blocked the UK's ID cards legislation, Scannell warned that a national ID card scheme would do little to improve security or guard against the threat of terrorism.
He argued that police would end up relying on automated ID checks instead of using their own judgement and intelligence. "It comes down to something that can be very dangerous, a false sense of security. It's going to make policemen less suspicious."
Scannell also hit out at people who claim only those who have something to hide are against the introduction of national ID cards and said there is already evidence in the US that people with the same or a similar name to people on terrorist and security watch-lists have been put on 'no-fly' lists and had their ability to travel freely restricted.
He said: "When people say they have nothing to fear or hide quite often they have a hell of a lot to fear because it is a computer and a database making that judgement, not a person."
Scannell claims the control and security governments seek through ID and surveillance checks are short-sighted and dangerous.
He said: "If we take a cursory glance at Israel you can't argue that an Israeli citizen is safer today than they were 30 years ago. When people are willing to die all the bets are off and no security measures will work."
Speaking as a former government agent, Scannell also warned of the potential abuse of a national identity register by those in power.
He said: "When you know what the tools of the state really are you are wary of unrestricted power. Governments abuse their power. That's a fact."
And Scannell hit out at the big multinational IT consultancies and vendors involved in building national ID schemes. He said: "Who does this benefit? Is this being foisted upon us by private companies?"
The UK's House of Lords is due to debate and vote on more amendments to the government's ID card legislation this week.






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1. anonymous
So true, so accurate. We are sleepwalking into a totalitarian state. This is a wise wake up call.
2. Josephine Bacon
Why can't we have a VOLUNTARY simple ID card of the kind used in other countries? I lived in Cyprus and Israel and had an ID card in both countries. I didn't really need one in Cyprus because I had a drivers' licence, but in the UK at present, only people with a driver's licence have any recognisable ID, because it is the only document that shows your photo and your home address. My husband has no driver's licence (neither do I) and because of that, when he lived with me befre we were married, for three years he could not register with a GP because he did not have enough recognisable forms of ID! When all these Civil Rights activists moan about ID cards, they never think of people denied their rights because they do not have an ID card.
3. Emrys Jones
There is a recognized probelm in companies that the 'Computer game generation' tend to believe what they see on their screens more easily than what they see by walking around the company, right up to the point where the truck turns up and there is nothing to actually put on it.
Heaven help us if the police go the same way
4. Warren Swaine
> for three years he could not register with a GP because he did not have enough recognisable forms of ID!
And you fell for that? These GPs are ingenious when they simple don't want you in their list. Mine just wanted my NHS number helpfully printed on my medical card. Cost? Probably a few pence.
Just wait for the first little old lady to be denied treatment or her pension refused because cataracts have rendered her retina scans invalid, then we'll really see the backlash at this inordinate waste of money.
5. Graham Coles
Civil liberties organizations don't oppose voluntary ID cards, they oppose being told they have to pay for one, be fingerprinted like criminals, have their photos filed, their retinas scanned and then be denied services they have paid for in taxes unless they have a card (and be fined if they fail to apply for one).
Other than that, we already have plenty of ID - driving licences, passports and I believe even a voluntary proof of age card. But the Government doesn't get enough traceability from this, it wants a massive identity database of everyone in the UK which can be used to control their lives - one single database to screw your life up.
There are huge problems with this, none the least of which is the affect it has on peoples lives when the technology fails: 'Sorry, the fingerprint scanner can't identify you, we can't treat you; Sorry, we'll have to detain you because the retinal scan couldn't find a match; No ID card, you must have something to hide then; Can't let you in without an ID card, we know they're voluntary but you have to have one ...
And all of that before someone hacks the database and incorrectly flags you as a terrorist. With the way laws are at the moment, you'll then probably be detained for a long time under the prevention of terrorism act until they sort it out. Not to mention you'd probably want to avoid using the train system.
6. anonymous
Josephine Bacon: what about the passports?
7. Richard
You'll need ID to register for an ID Card!
"...he could not register with a GP because he did not have enough recognisable forms of ID!"
That situation results form bogus government & media stories about mythical "health tourists." At hospital appointments, I'm now often required to declare my "ethnic" background and nationality - always "Jedi" or "other!"
However, if ghastly ID cards are introduced, we'll all have to produce documentary proof of our ID to the official at the compulsory face-to-face interview.
Note: People who currently have ID documents don't need additional ID cards: People who don't have ID documents will have problems getting an ID card.
Unless an ID system makes "enrollment" difficult and certain (and inconvenient) it will permit people to register bogus identities.
8. Tim Jackson
What about people who have got something to hide. Presumably they don't have "nothing to fear".
It's not only terrorists that have something to hide, even innocent people sometimes want to hide things.
Can we not envision scenarios where the identity database might be abused by those with access to it in order to say blackmail an unfaithful husband or wife? How do we secure the security? Who guards the guards?
And that apart, the building of such a security construct can only fuel a security arms race with organised crime. The bigger gun you have, the scarier it is when the enemy gets control of it. And inevitably they will.
This way the only solution lies in ever-increasing spending, which I am sure is great news for the likes of EDS!
9. anonymous too
Unless the ID card is about 6ft x 3ft and made of titanium, I fail to see how a piece of plastic is going to stop the blast of a bomb on a crowded bus\ tube train. As I seem to remember, the last round of suicide bombs were by UK citizens- how does an ID card stop that happening? Anyone applying for the ID card is hardly going to put down "terrorist" as their occupation.
And our NSA chum is correct, some government agency will most certainly abuse any national database- they can't stop themselves; and we can't stop them.
Not to mention that the Government can’t even keep it’s own Works & Pension db safe from theft. Plus they have thought about this scheme so long and so hard that they can't even put a proper cost to it- it's a joke from any angle you choose to look at it from.
10. Michael Fischer
ID cards are only needed in the new, improved UK, where we can expect to get Fixed Penalty notices through the letter box every time we commit some tivial offence. They serve no other substantial purpose than to prevent people from doing things, and to provide a basis for 'transparency' in how we perform as citizens. Perhaps after ID cards we can have a citizens' league table to show how good we are.
11. Michael Dixon
The BBC broadcast a play years ago about such a centralised system where a civil servant invoked a "de-person" process against someone he disliked - and got the wrong person.
Time for a re-broadcast, please.
Examples exist with parking tickets going to the wrong person owing to a miswritten ticket, or now fake plates with congestion charging.
12. James Gunn
I have three problems with the ID card idea :
Firstly at the moment a police officer has to assume we are normal citizens even if they habitually treat us as villains; ID cards reverse that relationship and we will then have to prove we have the right to be here, etc. This is partly why World War 2 was worth fighting and wholly why we decided to abandon ID cards at the end of that emergency (which probably justified ID cards unlike our curent circumstances)
Two - no-one has even tried to explain how ID cards will make us safer. Indeed several senior security figures have gone public to say that ID cards will not help - I'm unpersuaded it will help at all.
Thirdly - the costs are apparently unknown (code for too big to tell the voters) - why has the government chosen to relax all governemnt procurement rules for this one ?
Fourthly (Spanish Inquisition time) - never mind malicious staff running this database - sheer incompetence will make the whole thing unworkable as anyone with any experience of the government IT knows
13. Antony Norris
We've got nothing to fear, the British Government true to their form will award the ID card contract to EDS, who will, as usual, proceed to completely screw it up and it will never see the light of day. Unfortunately each person in the country will be obliged to pay for the mistakes - but no change there.
I wonder how much I have actually paid in the myriad of failed IT contracts not delivered in this country.
14. anonymous
I already have a id card it's called a passport. what if I am stopped in the street and asked for my ID card but do not have it and am given 24 hours or a week to produce it if I am a terrorist I just dissappear somewere else also I for 1 will refuse to have one so will many thousands of people. With byo metric passports now comeing in what is the point what if the Id card gets lost and a person is stopped many young people 16 plus never carry a wallet just stuff ther money into ther pockets with every thing else will they just be let go or what what a nightmare for the police to try to enforce I have never seen anything yet that cannot be forged we have maybe 5 million foreign nationals living in the uk all exempt from this what a joke
15. anonymous
ID Cards make easier to identify evil person,
SELECT * FROM id_table WHERE MOD(666)=0 AND BIRTH_DATE=13 AND BIRTH_DAY='FRIDAY'
see....!
If we use RFID, it would even much easier. Datamining here we come.
16. Adrian Tawse
I have no objection to a voluntary sheme either, but consider the situation. The card tself will be trivially simple to forge. Much easier than even a gas bill. I could go out tomorrow and buy a machine to make them by the hundred. To establish your identity unforgeably you will heve to be eye scanned and fingerprinted at the time of identification, and for that data to be checked, not against the card, but against the central database. This means equipping every bank, every police station, every police car, every post office with an identification booth. Untill all this infrastructure is in place ID cards are worthless at best and a very great danger at worst.
17. Adrian Tawse
This problem of blind trust in the system will be made worse by the fact that the legislation states that the presumption will be that the ID database will be correct, and it will b an offence not to correct any erronious data. Though how we are to check this data without making the system so open that anyone will have access to it, is left a little vague.
18. ASK THE GOVT!!
I wonder what kind of compensation scheme will be in place if someone's ID data is compromised due to lapses/bugs/incompetency/internal-sabotage at the Central Database of National IDs. Here's an example, an undercover terrorist "Registered" as a loyal citizen could "arrange" a sabotage of his/her records and then claim compensation and then use this award money to cause more sabotage. MARVELLOUS!! This is a self destructing scheme.
19. Soon will be a Barcode!!
Go to www.no2id.net and sign the petition against the ID card bill.
This is for people who, like me, may not already have known about this website.
20. Jennifer Gray
we should all join OWOS' anti-ID card campaign:
http://www.owos.info/index.php#IDCardFreeZone