Dell 'learns its lesson' after Indian call centre chaos

We'll be smarter next time, says Dell CIOÂ…

By Andy McCue, 31 March 2004 15:45

NEWS Dell admits it has "learnt its lesson" after being forced to drop its Indian call centre last year after customer complaints about the quality of service.

The call centre operation for the OptiPlex desktops and Latitude laptops was moved back to the US and, in an exclusive interview with silicon.com, Dell CIO Randy Mott said the Bangalore centre was unable to deal satisfactorily with the volume of calls generated by the rapid growth of those product lines.

"In that example we were not as efficient as we want to be," he said. "We were growing very quickly in that [consumer] segment. It got a little ahead of us. We took the decision to get it back under control. Our customers expect more from Dell than other companies and we weren't meeting those [expectations]."

Mott did not rule out future expansion in India and said Dell has a policy of "all-shoring" wherever the right skills are to meet the needs of its global business.

"We certainly learned a lot of things and we'll be smarter about our growth in newly developed areas," he said.

Mott has been CIO at Dell for four years now after his move from US retail giant Wal-Mart, and said being CIO for a technology company has its good and bad points.

"One of the positive things about it is you have a management team that understands the importance of technology," he said. "But there are also 46,000 CIOs in our company who all have opinions on technology and insights, so part of the challenge is good communication to understand what those opinions and thoughts are."

In Mott's time at Dell the IT budget has dropped from 1.91 per cent of revenue to 1.44 per cent of albeit larger revenues and the company is spending less in real dollar terms. Mott plans to bring that down even further to around one per cent of revenue, but that is likely to mean an actual dollar increase given Dell's ambitions to be a $60bn revenue company by 2005.

And Dell is getting more out of its own IT for that money. Mott said his department completed 480 projects last year and has 650 on the table this year, with 60 per cent of the 3,000 IT staff now working in development.

Internally the priorities include the Dell enterprise data warehouse, its global online shop and the migration from Sun Solaris running proprietary Unix to Red Hat Linux, which is set to complete this year. Externally with its own product set a lot of resource is also going into development around applications for Dell's 'one-stop shop' services business.

One area Dell won't be looking at for its own needs is outsourcing. Mott admitted that outsourcing can lead to an "average" IT cost for some firms but said IT is a core part of Dell's business.

"The last thing we want is an average cost structure," he said. ""We consider IT a core competency. It is something we look to for sustainable competitive advantage."

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  1. 1. Martyn Witt

    Dell seems to be suffocating under its own bureaucracy. Buying a personal-use Dell online in 2000 was a doddle - one form, and that was it. Buying one in 2004 involves a week-long exchange of emails and phone calls, a stream of unnecessary and meaningless 'confirmations' - it recently took so long for my order to be accepted that the original offer had expired!

  2. 2. anonymous

    I was very interested to read that Dell has moved its call centre out of India.
    However I have had cause to contact dell with another laptop problem
    And guess what …. A call centre person in India who was obviously following a script greeted me with no less than 3 hours of complete and utter rubbish.

    A call to our dell supplier rectified the problem in 2 minutes.
    They sent an engineer out to fix a known problem

  3. 3. anonymous

    I attended a client in the UK who needed technical support with their OptiPlex system. They had not been able to get any sense out of the Dell indian call centre themselves. On phoning on their behalf the the help received was very professional, extremely courteus and quickly resolved. The only problem was at times not being able to understand the technicians accent and having to ask him to repeat steps he wanted me to carry out.

  4. 4. Tony Martin

    Three orders I have placed with them, three I have cancelled. Ordered a desktop unit on 24th March 2004 they cannot supply it until 26th April 2004 - unbelievable.

    Also watch out for the delivery charges £49 PER ITEM. Does the Queen deliver them?

  5. 5. anonymous

    They may have moved US support away from India but UK customers are still having to deal with them!

  6. 6. anonymous

    Well done for Dell. I am currently progressing a motor claim through norwich union and every time I get through to an indian call centre I thank them, terminate call and ring norwich union's head office and ask to be put through to an EU based one (preferably UK)

  7. 7. anonymous

    Instead cutting costs by using a callcentre in India why don't Dell (and others) just use an automated phone response system? The staff seem to be working to a script anyway that if you deviate from they are lost as I found out this morning after calling Dell.

  8. 8. anonymous

    Some of the other readers comments are not correct. Dell have not closed the Indian call centre but Optiplex & Latitude support has been moved to US.

    We cheapskates who have Dimensions and Inspirons are still dealing with Bangalore. I have rung twice this week and although the guys out there appear reasonably knowledgable, the telephone line quality and language problems do not make for a satisfactory experience.

  9. 9. Martin Medforth

    I'm happy to support both equality and diversity as well as corporate social responsibility. Companies could be deemed to following both when relocating call centre facilities to the indian sub-continent. What I have zero tolerance for is a lack of quality both in respect of the call itself and the training and capabilities of the agents. Failure to ensure quality is inexcusable. We all realise that out-of-region staff need more training but it would appear that the likes of Dell (and Norwich Union perhaps) have ignored this all too obvious fact. Use of call compression techniques which lead to unacceptable audio quality is simply a cost-issue and rather suggests that the motivation is not really that of Equality, Diversity and CSR!!!!

  10. 10. Martin Medforth

    I'm happy to support both equality and diversity as well as corporate social responsibility. Companies could be deemed to following both when relocating call centre facilities to the indian sub-continent. What I have zero tolerance for is a lack of quality both in respect of the call itself and the training and capabilities of the agents. Failure to ensure quality is inexcusable. We all realise that out-of-region staff need more training but it would appear that the likes of Dell (and Norwich Union perhaps) have ignored this all too obvious fact. Use of call compression techniques which lead to unacceptable audio quality is simply a cost-issue and rather suggests that the motivation is not really that of Equality, Diversity and CSR!!!!

  11. 11. mario Nicholas

    So my 10 hrs on hold & a stream of emails, a total fiasco to resolve a simple non-delivery issue, will now be re-visited & dealt with professionally...
    I've taken my companies business elsewhere.

  12. 12. sandy

    I'm not surprised that Dell has had problems in Bangalore. I live in Bangalore and I know that their centre here has been ramped up too fast. The amount of training required in India would have to be much more.

    The key point here is NOT Bangalore or UK or USA. The point is that on the whole companies like Dell have reduced their customer service experience from very good to just average.

    I have lived and worked in the UK, France and now Bangalore - it's not the people or the place....it's what a company can do to turn young people into professionals.

    In India the Dell operation has been trying a little too hard. It takes time, you can't just hire a thousand people with little or no experience and expect it to work.

  13. 13. Ryan Mitchell

    Though I had pblms getting used to the accent in India, I guess I am quite satisified with their technical expertise. Come on lets give em some slack, we cannot expect everybody to be accomodating to our accent.

  14. 14. anonymous

    Thank heavens dell have moved away from the Indian Call Centre.I have had a policy of buying Dell equipment for our Company but my recent customer support experiences have given me reason to look elsewhere. Perhaps I'll give them one more try!!

  15. 15. Jackie Jones

    I was unfortunate enough to have a problem with a Latitude last week and still ended up talking to the Indian call centre so when are they supposed to have moved this?

  16. 16. Richard Bellew

    Not sure the problem is just in India! I bought a personal-use Inspiron last April. In July it took a lightning strike via the modem. The call centre was pretty efficient, but the mc STILL hasn't been fixed! Dell keeps making 'appointments' to collect & fix it, but never do so. Anyone know how to spur UK Dell into action?

  17. 17. Mark H

    This seems to happen to people quite often.
    I have been charged twice for one computer and I am finding it difficult/impossible to get any response from anyone willing or able to do anything about it. I feel like i'm being stonewalled by their polite call handlers in India with a script based response. No exec or even area manager seems willing to return my calls. Well done Dell UK. INFURIATING

  18. 18. William

    Dell Support sucks!
    their call center only operates on weekdays during office hours.
    we consumers have to work so how to get support!!!

  19. 19. anonymous

    MPC gives great support. Bye bye Dell!

  20. 20. anonymous

    I'm a great believer in equality and diversity provided that the employee is up to the job.

    You wouldn't employ a van driver who couldn't drive, so why would you employ a call centre operative who can't speak the language of the customer they are paid to deal with?

    Employing someone as an English-speaking call centre operative when his or her English is poor is simply ludicrous!

    I have now cancelled my order with Dell!

    I think that other organisations that are considering overseas call centres should think again!

  21. 21. Jon English

    In answer to Richard Bellew...

    Write a snotty e-mail to the Dell UK PR department cc'd to editorial at Silicon and you will get their attention. I did just this last year when my order was held up by the 'free' memory and case that I didn't ask for not being in stock and got excellent assistance from an arse kicking lady in PR.

    Also sounds like the call out has become disconnected somewhere...Dell maintenance in the UK is actually handled by Unisys in most areas, you might want to get nasty with them too, Dell may think that it's been sorted.

    As for the Indian call centre?...I tried dealing with the account manager in the UK and got nowhere, so I'm not sure that it's just a langauge barrier to good service.

  22. 22. James

    I have a latitude D800 computer, and I have been put through to indian support lines EVERY time I call, so I don't think that the model of the computer matters one way or the other- this was LAST WEEK, mind you.

    I had a problem with my "suspension mode" not working properly so I did what any inquiring mind would do; I called support. And no less that ONE HOUR of mumbo jumbo (going into safe mode, turning off startup programs) the support person out of the blue says "Thank you for calling, have a nice day" And before I could respond he ended the call.

    Ummmmm.... needless to say I was completely baffled, and to this day I have not fixed the problem.

  23. 23. anonymous

    Lot has been said about bad techincal support provided by Indian techs in Dell Technical Support. I completely agree with the fact that there is a language barrier here.. but it has to be there coz we dont speak your language and you dont speak ours!!

    But its not only about that.. its also about some weird policies. Bad traning given to the techs. Not to forget, some real ignorant Customer who would like to think that the CD drive in the system is acutally a coffee mug holder! or the ones who would ruch to clsoe all the windows in their house when a technician instructs them to 'Close the window'.

    I have listend to call takn by US techs and I am sure they would be really impatient to such 'Ignorant cusotmers'

    Right now, I audit calls for a US based call center and believe me!! they are no different!

    Lets be lil more tolerant and try understanding each other.

  24. 24. anonymous

    I just had the opposite experience. I could not get Symantec to answer the phone for 8 hours so I called Dell back on my problem and the Indian in Bombay solved it perfectly. I am more concerned that they understand ME than vice versa.

  25. 25. M Perryman

    I have had dealings with Dell's Call Centre in India. Very polite but totally useless! All they do is follow a flow chart to diagnose problems, but have no feeling for what is going on. They caused my computer to crash and I had to pay a third party to fix it and restore my data. Dell have resisted paying the bill.

  26. 26. anonymous

    GREAT computer. Really Really crap Indian call centre. They are polite but don't have a clue!!!

  27. 27. Priska Frank

    I agree entirely with Martin Medforth

  28. 28. Dave

    Tried using the Indian Call Centre to buy a laptop a couple of weeks ago - never again, I couldn't understand her, and vice versa - ridiculous swopping of Emails that didn't work..what a waste of time...used Laptops Direct online, better product, cheaper and I was understood....

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