By Martin Brampton, 12 July 2005 07:00
COMMENT As with the war on drugs, the government has apparently made little progress in stopping terrorist attacks thus far. The latest remedy, ID cards, will not change this state of affairs, says Martin Brampton.
The government still thinks that ID cards will stop terrorists. Perhaps on the application form, there will be a box to tick if you are a terrorist. The sad fact is that our world is full of violence and there is little likelihood of ending it unless we can think of an entirely new approach.
In the meantime, governments trot out remedies that have more to do with avoiding ridicule by the tabloids than with achieving any particular result. The Home Secretary concedes that ID cards would not stop actual incidents but argues that it would damage the financial and organisational networks behind terrorists.
This is, of course, wildly inconsistent with another theme that constantly runs through the reaction to the threat of violence. The bombers are characterised as madmen, beyond the bounds of ordinary humanity. Yet they are simultaneously believed to be capable of sophisticated financial and logistical organisation - and of creating schemes that could only be disrupted by subjecting us all to an eavesdropping, supervising and interfering society.
To see whether this kind of thing would be likely to succeed, we could turn away from terrorism and consider another, only slightly less emotive topic. Governments have become fond of waging wars of all kinds, despite the unhealthy echoes of Orwell's novel 1984. The war on drugs has been one of the most prominent for some years now.
If they expect to be believed, one might have thought members of the government would refer us to their successful track record in the war on drugs. But of course they cannot do so. The results have been risibly negligible as sections of the nation seemingly become ever more in the grip of drug taking.
Enormous publicity is given to seizures of drugs and their so-called street value is always proclaimed to the press. Naturally, this is about as meaningful as grabbing a sack of coffee beans at the docks and proclaiming what its 'street value' will be after it turned up on the supermarket shelf as a jar of instant coffee.
In fact, government concedes that seizures are only a small proportion of the flow of drugs, and as likely to stop drug taking as the tax on alcohol is likely to stop drinking. Indeed, the drinks industry would doubtless be delighted to hand over a percentage of its production in exchange for being relieved of tax, putting it on a more level footing with the drugs business.
Naturally, the fact that some drugs are lost to seizures is a factor in the calculations of drug dealers, as is the loss of personnel to lengthy prison sentences. None of these things stop the business, though, if anything they simply help to push up prices and profits.
Now drug dealers are merely in it for the money, and that produces enough violence and determined law evasion to ensure a continuing flow of drugs to those that want them. Government schemes have made it impossible for little old ladies to open bank accounts, because they have neither driving licences nor passports. But there is no evidence that law enforcement have impeded the flow of drug money.
And if the government cannot seriously impede people who are only in it for the money, how much less chance does it stand against those who believe themselves to be on a mission of the utmost importance? So important to some of them that they are perfectly willing to die for the cause?
It is clear enough that increasing interference with ordinary life can have a deleterious effect on the life of the generally law abiding citizen. There is scant evidence that ID cards or other controls on the individual will make a significant difference to our safety against the threat of bombs and such like.

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1. anonymous
Couldn't agree more
2. Mark SPLINTER
Respect to Martin once again.
3. Martin Lukes
Why is this called "Devil's Advocate"? Do you really think that saying ID cards are great puts someone on the side of the angels? It's just more knee-jerk spin to make it look as if the government - any government - has a clue what to do about facing the fact that some people hate the things you do. Bombing their houses, for example. Detaining people without trial. Invading their country. Making out you care about thier tyrannical dictator, while there's a long list of equally tyranical dictators you're quite happy to support and some other ones you're too scared to do anything about. Saying you care about human rights afterwards.
Given that governments don't feel able to have an adult discussion about this with the people who elect them, best to look busy instead. ID cards will do fine.
4. Tony
Too right. Well said Martin
Control is not the answer.
Reminds me of when the traffic lights break. Is it me or does the traffic seem to run smoother.
5. Bob C
Too right!
6. Major Horatio Worthybladder
1- The money for the inroduction of ID cards is going to be considerable.
2- ID cards have no proven value other than to provide the Gov with an appearance of meaningful activity and enhance the profits of select IT magnates. If this is incorrect then where is the data to prove the benefit of the introduction of ID cards? In what practical way can they be used for the purpose of reducing terrorist activity?
3- ID cards may hinder the normal lifestyle of non-combatant civilians and serve to alienate society from government.
4- The same money if spent wisely could enhance the global view of the nation if spent on worthwhile projects such as funding HIV-AIDS programs in the 3rd World. This would be unlikely to deflect terrorists but I doubt anything would.
7. anonymous
Couldn't disagree with a word. Interesting article in the Times today (12/7) by Martin Samuel. He proposes scrapping all the gimmicky and failed security initiatives of the government and police and using the savings to fund a sniffer dog at each station and on each platform and train. You can buy a hell of a lot of sniffer dogs for the sum proposed for ID cards and with a far greater chance that they would achieve the stated objective.
8. Len Morris
I have no problems with ID cards in principle, but I do not see why they should cost a significant amount of money to people to use.
If ID cards are to be successful then they will prevent crime, as commented elswhere this is likely to be more in the nature of routine fraud prevention than terrorism. If they are successful (in what ever form) then the net result will be to save money. Terrorism, fraud, drug dealing crimes all cost the country and hence the tax payer money. If ID cards are a good investment in preventing several types of crime then they should show a return on that investment and it should not be necessary to charge more than a nominal sum for there implementation. If not then why are we implementing them.
My main fear is that the reason that they are being introduced is so that polatitions are more likely to be returned to power at some future election couple with a fear that they could just introduce more expensive bureacracy with little reward.
So if they should put there money where their beliefs are and charge a nominal sum for them then reap the returns. If they lack confidence in that then the conclusion is obvious.
Len Morris.
9. I Zopen
The government are just using the "threat of terror" to use as an excuse to control us more. Create fear and you create the need for protection.
Does anyone else find it a bit uncanny that after all this time and wait for a terror attack, it comes at a time when the government are trying to make the decisive push for ID card introduction? while all our leaders are safely the other side of the country?
Anyone else smell a rat?
10. anonymous
You have it exactly right.
Perhaps you are being generous, omitting the likely motives of government in destroying our privacy and perfecting the right to supervise and intercept our daily affairs. Let's look to the record: East Germany remained a politically and economically corrupt power for decades simply because the government retained extensive dossiers on its citizens. In their wildest dreams, the East Germans never had the power of data base mining, RFID, social security numbers on all financial transactions, and web access to all of that by any and every government snoop. The first thing any totalitarian government wants is control of the populace.
Well, to be honest, we don't have a totalitarian government.
Not yet.
Kenn B, USA
11. r. bencheikh
i agree 100%, i don't think the ID cards will stop any lunatic, look at Israel, they've been trying for years to come up with a solution...
R. Bencheikh
http://www.thebiometrix.com
12. Napoleon DeCoded
ID Cards work when they become required for permission to do anything and authoriites are required to allow each event which is - - - The Napoleonic Code! Napoleon must be twirling round in his grave, wherever it really is!
13. Napoleon DeCoded
ID Cards work when they become required for permission to do anything and authoriites are required to allow each event which is - - - The Napoleonic Code! Napoleon must be twirling round in his grave, wherever it really is!
14. Martin Lukes
Smell a rat? Next you'll be suggesting we'll get someone out of prison, dress them up like plucky Brits (whatever they look like) shoot them and dump their bodies somewhere compromising. Bradford, for example, Not Saudi, must not upset the Royal House of Saud under any circumstances (especially if we make documentaries about their charming habit of chopping people's heads off if they happen to go to bed with someone they perhaps oughtn't to, in case the House of Saud look like the medieval barbarian oligarchs they actually are), however many of them are actively helping Al Q'uaeda and funding it, such as Osama bin Laden.
No, however many Saudis were involved in 9/11 - 12 out of 19 on Saudi passports last time I looked - it was Johnny Iraqi what done it and no error.
Anyway, it could never happen, a government fixing events to make thier case look good. What do you mean, that's what Hitler did in Poland and Tony Blair did with Iraq? How dare you? Are you a terrorist or something? By golly, if I could count the plucky chaps we left behind (to be continued in the Daily Telegraph/Mail?Sun/Times forever)
15. anonymous
Yes, Agreed that cards will have a damaging effect on society, but until society wakes up and smells the roses and then informs on those people that are breaking the law under there noses, I feel that the only way forward is a complete lock down on personal privacy and allowing big brother in.
I would love to leave my house in the morning and only close the door, but as so much criminal activity is just overlooked by society as 'they should be able to do what they like', I can't.
The sooner that everybody accepts that we all have to live in this society of ours and not be governed by the thugs, the better.
Would anybody like to comment on a way to stop people hiding behind the anonymity of personal identity that would show them up as the criminal that they are ?
16. Drew Edgar
I don't think anyone claims it will stop heathen terrorists or other criminals.
What it will do is make it more difficult for them & assist in their detection & prosecution.
It will also assist the repatriation of illegal immigrants & their families, who by their deceitful, criminal conduct show utter contempt for the rule of law.
17. anonymous
Bang on!
18. anonymous
What is exactly the extent of the terrorist threat? The victims of last week's attack would probably consider the threat level high, but as an objective observer, comparing the number of casualties due to terrorist attacks to the annual number of road deaths, I would consider the latter to be much more of a threat to the security of the average citizen. Not to speak of the number of people dying each year from smoking-related illnesses.
Terror attacks provide good TV footage, but in fact, there are more deadly threats out there right now. And I am certainly not willing to give up more civil liberties in exchange for increased security, which will probably prove to be a failure anyway.
After all, if we give up our civil liberties to fight terror, we may overcome terror, but terror will have realised its goals !!
19. anonymous
Perhaps we should also disband the police so they dont interfere with honest terrorists wanting to bring mayhem & murder to our cities?
Just as with all aspects of the technology revolution progress creates a need to catch up. ID cards wont stop terrorists but they will make life more difficult for the bad guys & give the police a fighting chance.
Final comment as an expat Brit living in a country with ID cards (& not especially hi-tec) you would be surprised of the benefits to a citizen with nothing to hide - everything from your time sheet at work to your bank account & driving licence all at the control of a single number - less human memory required!!!!
20. David Quinn
There seem to me to be two big objections to ID cards which if they are given enough publicity could sink them. The first is the cost. Let's say they are capped at £100, then a family of 2 adults and 2 teenies will have to pay £400. Lot of money for most people. And it is all very well for Clarke to say they will be capped but the real excess cost will have to be born by the taxpayer. If this is £200 a card it will cost each taxpayer £500 minimum.
Secondly, it is absolutely inevitable that it will become compulsory to carry them. The police will demand Id when there is an incident of any sort. If you haven't got it they will ask you to report later to a police station. The villains won't turn up. The card will therefore be completely useless to the police who are bound to demand compulsion. Then lots of people will forget them and be fined. People will be fined out walking the dog. Old people especially will forget. Nobody will probably bother them but they will worry about it. In general the anxiety level of the nation, already high, will be notched up again. As I say if this is properly aired support will plummet.
21. stinky weill
And just think all that information in one ready wrapped parcel so that when
the technology is hacked wide open, which as with every other IT security
object it will be, in fact this has allready been partially done on the biometric side of things, whoever wishes can with ease rob ya blind.
The current trend in IT is not in fact storing large amounts of sensetive info
in one place, rather it is distributed to ensure that damage&loss due to breaches of security are kept to a minimum. It looks like instead of keeping up with the times the gov are in fact going backwards in time.